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Leaving recommendations on the Warmshowers website
I have hosted over 30 guests at my home in the past two years, as I live along a main artery on the Southern Tier route. Many guests have called at A moment's notice and I have accepted them into my home. I observed that each guest has some sort of electronic device with them, i.e., ipod, etc. so it is easy for them to contact me and do other communications with ease. My only request for my guests have been for them to leave a timely recommendation for me on the warmshowers website upon their stay. Every guest agrees to such an act, yet only a select few have done so! I find that a guest who stays at a hosts' home and doesn't leave a recommendation later on has a poor character! It is only common courtesy to say thanks to someone who offers you a gift, which is what a host does to a guest. So please, all of you warmshowers guests who ask to stay at someone's home, PLEASE leave a timely recommendation for your host on the warmshowers website! Thank you!
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Thanks!
Thanks for your hospitality!
One thing Kevin did recently is to add a notification that someone receives when someone else recommends them. So now if *you* do a recommendation of them... it will immediately remind them to do the same.
Some people never will :-(
But anyway, we can hope for improvement.
Thanks again for your generous hospitality.
-Randy
thank you Kevin
I have been on tours the last 2 summers. I try and leave a thank you and recomendation for most members I stay with out of courtesy. I have been treated as a part of the family in most cases (sometimes like a king!!). I just enjoy to fellowship and trade stories over a cold beer or a coffee. Thank you to all who have hosted me. Peace.
CEO
recommendation
It is only appropriate that a guest leaves a polite recommendation for his/her host as soon as possible. In my opinion, a guest should leave a polite recommendation the day he/she leaves the guests' home! Be thankful for a warm and safe place. Thanks for offering thank yous and polite recommendations for your guests as soon as possible.
I agree completely
Using this site should put a mandate for increasing the utilization of the site. The service works when people use it properly. Since it is free, make it a written "rule", however enforceable, to leave comments for places people have stayed. A review is the least they can do, given the effort put in by the developers and the hosts.
Cheers
recommendation
Rich, thanks for your support! It is disturbing to offer your home to a stranger, plan a time for them to stay, offer comfort, food, etc. and not have this person/people leave a note on the warmshowers website to say thanks! One has to wonder how else these folks conduct themselves throughout life; never saying please or thank you after receiving a gift.
Inept
Well, it might come down to the fact that they don't' know how to play it, so they just default to shutting up. Not the right way, of course, but it's safe. Maybe some of these people are cycle tourists because it's their way of shutting out. That's why a clear message from warm showers administration could help in this manner. If they say "it is highly expected you leave a review of your hosts", then it's more of a requirement than a suggestion. It's really not too much to ask, especially when it builds the system.
A night's stay
You are incredibly astute in your observations of obvious previous guests that have not left a recommendation for you as well after staying at your home. I, too, often wondered why one would stay for months or even years on a bike and travel the globe without some sort of stable income or support. Such a way allows these folks to opt out of life, using resources offered to them, then on to the next. I mean, come on, I've had nurses, doctors and even airplane pilots stay at my place without bothering to say thanks after leaving! The warmshowers administration won't create some sort of demand for a thank you from guests because they fear that it would be too harsh and possibly scare off donors and sponsors.
Suggestions
I don't think it's a demand, but more of an explanation of how the system works, and a very strong suggestion that it's expected. In so providing a review, that you also indirectly support the Warmshowers system.
recommendation
This is a concept that I will bring up the the warmshowers website administration. I feel tha same about E Bay. As soon as I pay for something, I expect the buyer to leave positive feedback for me! You have received my money, what else am I to do for you?!
eBay
In that sense, eBay is flawed. I had a run-in recently, and eBay paid for the whole thing. Make sure the powers that be, read this thread.
I'm probably the "powers that
I'm probably the "powers that be" and I've promoted member feedback about other members for years. I consider it crucial. Our FAQ and introductory materials all promote doing it.
I'm listening, but you need to remember this is a volunteer organization whose members are by far the most important part. We don't have a lot of technology, and I certainly don't have a lot of time to develop new features. You'll note we don't control member interactions at all.
Hiya Randy. I haven't created
Hiya Randy.
I haven't created my account recently, so I'll have to ask you. Is there anything inside the Terms that shoves this feedback up front and centre? The video that I saw I ironically saw the other day, emphasized keeping accounts up to date, but didn't mention feedback for hosts.
feedback
Exactly! Almost a sense of social shame or ostracizing for those who stay at your home and don't respond back on the warmshowers website!
No, we're not going to build
No, we're not going to build the WS culture around shame. It's built around freely given, reciprocal hospitality.
I'm in favor of finding new ways to promote feedback (and members responsiveness to contacts), both of which I consider essential. Volunteers to work on this are welcome. There's so much that can be done.
Some people
Maybe some people assume because a WS host opens their house they can afford it, and thus just take.
I have assumed many couchsurfing style traveller's use that style because its "cheap". We've met many travellers while away who seem to "use" hosts in this way. We think and hope most cyclists are different.
The difference is that we could go and "find" a traveller and invite them in without asking for anything, but this is different. Same kind of interests and as said before, just a comment and thank-you.
Maybe the problem is when someone is invited via WS they think they are special guest, as opposed to someone using the system because its cheap.
Expectations
That's where the expectations can be set clear by the account generation.
guests
Exactly! Many guests feel a sense of entitlement to a warmshowers house. If you can't play nicely, stay home!